I seem to remember him laying into Domestic Violence charities. Freud's book on the relationship between 'joke's' and unconscious attitudes would suggest some valuable insights. I leave the rest for you....did I not hear somewhere that a certain staff member had been elected to a certain Central Committee in Burry Port yesterday..or did I dream that?
Jokes and Their Relation to the Unconscious is a 1905 book on the psychoanalysis of jokes and humour by Sigmund Freud, the founder of psychoanalysis. In the work, Freud describes the psychological processes and techniques of jokes, which he compares to to the processes and techniques of dreamwork and the unconsciou
Now what does this tell us of the male culture and outlook amongst the staff of one particular Independent AM.. I cant comment..perhaps you could make up your own mind?
Neil McEvoy criticised over tweet showing him wearing boxing gloves 'ready' for Leanne Wood
Independent AM Neil McEvoy has deleted a tweet showing a picture of him wearing boxing gloves saying he's "ready" for Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood.Mr McEvoy was criticised for tweeting the picture, showing him with Culture and Sport minister Lord Dafydd Elis-Thomas wearing boxing gloves outside the Senedd.
He issued an apology, saying it had been posted by a staff member.
The Cardiff councillor and South Wales Central AM said: "I usually manage my own Twitter account with the pressures of time today the publicity for the boxing event was delegated to a staff member who made a mistake in what he thought was a light-hearted tweet.
"He apologised and the matter was resolved. He is a valued member of staff who I am sure will have learned a lesson."
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/neil-mcevoy-criticised-over-tweet-14410870?fbclid=IwAR3JJT4KZTFUFH4VItYg6YvqMwhyZNEv4kMfvqwBUTx6266lg5xf4Zlsh68
The tweet was deleted when Lord Elis-Thomas tweeted him directly asking to take it down.
Lord Elis-Thomas said: "The implication of this tweet is wholly inappropriate - the original picture was taken to highlight the positive work of the new Cross Party Group on Boxing & should certainly not be used in this manner. Please take it down @neiljmcevoy "
Other AMs had heavily criticised Mr McEvoy for the tweet. Plaid AM Bethan Sayed said she was "outraged".
Mr McEvoy said that a response to a message on Twitter from Plaid AM Sian Gwenllian, who said it was "not harmless humour", had also been sent by his staff member.
The response had said: "Sian, just so you know I meant absolutely no malice by this. It was a jokey question from a journalist and I gave a jokey response.
"If @LeanneWood asks me to take the tweet down then I will happily do it. We're both members of the same party and on the same side."
The row erupted after Mr McEvoy reacted to a tweet promoting Wales Online's latest Martin Shipton Meets... podcast, in which Plaid leader Ms Wood is asked who she disliked more - Mr McEvoy or Lord Elis-Thomas.
Listen now: Martin Shipton Meets Leanne Wood
The tweet had shown a the picture of him and Lord Elis-Thomas wearing boxing gloves with the message "we're ready".But there was massive outcry on Twitter over the message.
Freud Gets Serious About Jokes
Bill Crosby once said “Through humor, you can soften some of the worst blows that life delivers. And once you find laughter, whatever your situation might be, you can survive it.” Theorists and philosophers alike who have studied the ideas and writings of Sigmund Freud may be the first to say that Freud himself would agree with Bill Crosby in that humor can be used as a safety blanket, a mask, or even a band-aid to ease life’s biggest and smallest bruises. You, yourself, may agree as well. You laugh when you see pictures of your “awkward stage” in middle school, although, when you were thirteen your braces were no laughing matter. You fall in the middle of the cafeteria on the first day of school. What do you do? You laugh. You see, perhaps Freud was not as crazy as we think he was.
The Start of Freud’s Studies
Sigmund
Freud was born on May 6, 1856 as Sigismund Schlomo Freud (and spent
most of his life in Vienna with his two half brothers. After graduating
at the top of his class, Freud studied to become a physician, which led
him to become intrigued and compelled by emotional disorders. The spark
of Freud’s interest in mental and emotional disorders came from a
patient named Anna O. (pictured to the right) who suffered from an
unexplainable cough, and loss of feeling in her limbs. Freud’s research
led him to believe that Anna’s condition stemmed from a mental or
emotional distress rather than any physical cause. Anna had spent most
of her life providing care to her father and after his death began
experiencing strange ailments such as becoming mute, hallucinating and
dreaming up bizarre situations and fantasies. Through studying Anna,
Freud began developing theories explaining a condition known as hysteria
and the physical effects that result from it. Freud wrote a book titled
Studies in Hysteria which was the first of many books filled with
theory developed by Freud and his colleagues. Despite many doubters and
skeptics, Freud continued his studies and is well known for his theory
about the unconscious mind and the use of humor as an outlet for
repressed emotions. Watch this video and picture biography of Freud
to see the face of the man who not only took a step into your
literature class, but also impacted medicine with a lasting
reverberation.
A View into Freud’s Analysis of Humor
A View into Freud’s Analysis of Humor
When
Freud introduces us to the topic of humor and how jokes are related to
unconscious mechanisms of the human mind, he makes a note of how little
effort had been made up until that time to comprehensively study the
idea of the joke and its broader implications for the human psyche. Even
today, over a century later, the motives behind jokes, the role of the
players involved, and the various types and meanings are by no means
things that the average tellers and enjoyers of jokes take into account
when taking part. This is mostly due to the fact that so much of the
pleasure derived from telling or hearing a joke occurs in the
unconscious, and understanding what processes make the joke humorous, is
in no way necessary for the joke to be understood. To understand just
why it is that jokes are humorous to us in the first place Freud
analyzes in depth a few critical concepts. He analyzes many different
forms and styles of jokes, distinguishes their meaning, and then looks
into the roles people play in relation to their telling.
In his book Jokes and Their Relation to the Unconscious, Freud spends a lot of time looking at specific examples of style.
Two clear examples of varying styles of joke structure include modification and word fusion. Each uses a different delivery method and in this case has different intentions behind them. The first example being that by Herr N., in which Freud writes about a man who became a minister of agriculture with no experience but having been a farmer and how he resigned to work the farm again: “Like, Cincinnatus, he has gone back to his place before the plow. The Roman, however who had also been called away to office from the plough, returned to his place behind the plow. What went before the plow, both then and today, was only- an ox.”(59). It is clear, once explained, that the style of the joke is simply the slight modification of meaning in the phrase by replacing behind with before. Since the joke’s author is building the farmer up by comparing him to a noble figure and at the same time referring to him as an ox comic effect results. This joke can be seen as hostile, as it is insulting, cynical in it’s regard for farmers, and finally skeptical, in that it builds him up and at the same time knocks him down. The fact that this joke takes on a comedic aspect through the combination of these different meanings means that it seeks to serve some purpose, making it a tendentious joke.
The other and opposite type of joke that Freud classifies is known as an innocent joke, an example being one that fuses words for comic effect, one in that is also easier to grasp subconsciously . He explains how drinking and holidays were commonly associated in the time and place this author had written: “In an anonymous short story Brill once found the Christmas season described as the alcoholidays – a similar fusing of alcohol with holidays.”(53). The style joke is simple and it requires no real thought as it simply is creating an imaginary word by fusing two that already exist. The meaning behind it is equally as simple, as it is not aimed at anyone, though it makes a general remark on the holiday season’s activities. This sort of joke is classified as innocent, as most of the humor comes from simply modified words which have little more effect then to sound peculiar or clever.
In his book Jokes and Their Relation to the Unconscious, Freud spends a lot of time looking at specific examples of style.
Two clear examples of varying styles of joke structure include modification and word fusion. Each uses a different delivery method and in this case has different intentions behind them. The first example being that by Herr N., in which Freud writes about a man who became a minister of agriculture with no experience but having been a farmer and how he resigned to work the farm again: “Like, Cincinnatus, he has gone back to his place before the plow. The Roman, however who had also been called away to office from the plough, returned to his place behind the plow. What went before the plow, both then and today, was only- an ox.”(59). It is clear, once explained, that the style of the joke is simply the slight modification of meaning in the phrase by replacing behind with before. Since the joke’s author is building the farmer up by comparing him to a noble figure and at the same time referring to him as an ox comic effect results. This joke can be seen as hostile, as it is insulting, cynical in it’s regard for farmers, and finally skeptical, in that it builds him up and at the same time knocks him down. The fact that this joke takes on a comedic aspect through the combination of these different meanings means that it seeks to serve some purpose, making it a tendentious joke.
The other and opposite type of joke that Freud classifies is known as an innocent joke, an example being one that fuses words for comic effect, one in that is also easier to grasp subconsciously . He explains how drinking and holidays were commonly associated in the time and place this author had written: “In an anonymous short story Brill once found the Christmas season described as the alcoholidays – a similar fusing of alcohol with holidays.”(53). The style joke is simple and it requires no real thought as it simply is creating an imaginary word by fusing two that already exist. The meaning behind it is equally as simple, as it is not aimed at anyone, though it makes a general remark on the holiday season’s activities. This sort of joke is classified as innocent, as most of the humor comes from simply modified words which have little more effect then to sound peculiar or clever.
Freud writes on the implications of innocent and tendentious jokes:
“The pleasurable effect of innocent jokes is as a rule a moderate one; a
clear sense of satisfaction, a slight smile, is as a rule all it can
achieve in its hearer. And it may be that a part even of this effect is
to be attributed to the jokes intellectual content…A non-tendentious
joke scarcely ever achieves the sudden burst of laughter which makes
tendentious ones so irresistible. Since the technique of both can be the
same a suspicion may be aroused in us that tendentious jokes, by virtue
of their purpose, must have sources of pleasure at their disposal to
which innocent jokes have no access.”(139-40)
Freud Critics:
Freud Critics:
Freud’s
theories on humor have been widely accepted and largely unchallenged
for years. One critic of Freud’s work is Joseph Newirth PhD, a professor
at the Manhattan Institute for Psychoanalysis. In his paper “Jokes and
their relation to the Unconscious: Humor as a Fundamental Emotional
Experience,” Newirth argues that because Freud used a one-person
conflict model to generate his theories he was unable to develop his
theories completely. This would involve a two-person psychology
perspective, which focuses on the “intersubjective views of mental
processes” used by contemporary psychologists. “Freud’s difficulty
understanding the intersubjective, affective, and symbolic aspect of
jokes and humor reflects the limits imposed by his view of the mind as
an energy discharge system…”says Newrith of the out of date way of
thinking. His biggest problem with the work that Freud did was that
Freud didn’t give enough attention to what was happening between the
listener and the teller as a whole instead of two separate cases.
Examples of jokes based on Freud’s analysis:
Double entendre: a figure of speech that can be understood in two ways. ie, if I said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me?
Play on words:
using words with more than one meaning: ie, little jimmy told his
teacher he never saw a humming bird but he had watched a spelling bee.
Using words in a different order: ie, I swear to drunk I’m not god osifer.
Slight modification: ie, that’s what she said.
Hostile Jokes (beginning to 1:05)
Obscene Jokes
Cynical Jokes
Skeptical Jokes (between 1:54 and 3:23
Obscene Jokes
Cynical Jokes
Skeptical Jokes (between 1:54 and 3:23
Innocent Joke: Knock knock
Who’s there?
Woo.
Woo, who?
Don’t get so excited, it’s just a joke.
Who’s there?
Woo.
Woo, who?
Don’t get so excited, it’s just a joke.
Works Cited
Boeree, George C. "Sigmund Freud ." Personality Theories. 1997. 1 Oct. 2008. .
Newirth, Joseph. “Jokes and Their Relation to the Unconscious: Humor as a Fundamental
Emotional Experience.” Psychoanalytic Dialogues 16.5
(2006): 557-571.
Rowell, Maria H. "Sigmund Freud's Biography." The Freud Page. 1998. 2 Oct. 2008. .
Van Wagner, Kendra . "Sigmund Freud Biography." About.com. 2008. 1 Oct. 2008. .
Freud, Sigmund. Volume 6: Jokes and Their Relation to the Unconscious
Pelican Books, 1976. London, England.
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Emotional Experience.” Psychoanalytic Dialogues 16.5
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-43905676
Domestic violence victim annoyed by assembly showing for film
A domestic violence victim has said it "doesn't set a good example" to show a film in the assembly her attacker made.
Dr Lee Salter was given a 22-week prison sentence suspended for 18 months for assaulting partner Allison Smith.
Mr McEvoy said he was unaware of this. The body in charge of the assembly's day-to-day running said responsibility lies with the AM sponsoring the event.
A statement on behalf of Dr Salter said the film was about prison and rehabilitation, not about his particular case.
Mr McEvoy, who is serving an 18 month suspension from Plaid Cymru, said he was asked by members of the party to host the film.
Dr Salter, who goes by the name "Unsound Robin" for the purposes of the film, was convicted of assault by beating and causing criminal damage to belongings at Brighton Magistrates' Court on 13 July in 2016.
He was ordered to complete 150 hours of unpaid work and given a restraining order not to contact his victim, Ms Smith.
She told BBC Wales: "I'm not sure the Welsh Assembly would want to be a part of someone using a film as a platform to peddle the idea that victims lie. It doesn't set a good example.
"I don't think any university or law firm would we happy to be part of that. Although I think some have stood by it and seem to be missing the point being made."
Ms Smith met Dr Salter during an induction day at Sussex University where he was a media and communications lecturer.
A statement on behalf of Dr Salter this week said: "Lee Salter was convicted of a crime, for which he was severely punished and rehabilitated.
"He made a film as a convicted criminal about prison and the difficulties people with convictions face when trying to build positive lives, which the media smear is proving very well.
"The film is nothing to do with him or his case, neither of which have ever been discussed at screenings.
"It's a screening of a film by an anonymous convict who said he was a convict about conviction to a audience that wanted to see a film by a convict about conviction."
It is not clear whether Dr Salter spoke at the assembly event.
Mr McEvoy said: "I was approached by Plaid members to host the film Injustice, exploring the dreadful state of prisons at the Senedd, after seeing it at the University of South Wales.
"I will continue to do all I can to campaign to support all victims of domestic abuse".
An Assembly Commission spokesperson said: "The general guidance about the use of the estate clearly states that events, exhibitions or displays of material that may cause offence are not allowed on the assembly estate.
"Ultimately, accountability for these activities lies with the sponsoring assembly member.
Plaid councillor Neil McEvoy slammed over Twitter rant against women’s charities
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/plaid-councillor-neil-mcevoy-slammed-1798526
Plaid Cymru has sought to distance itself from the deputy leader of Cardiff council following a stream of Twitter outbursts about domestic violence charities.
Neil McEvoy has come under fire after making a series of claims on the site about Safer Wales and Welsh Women’s Aid.
And further pressure was heaped on Coun McEvoy last night as the Labour group on Cardiff council called on leader Rodney Berman to sack his deputy.
Coun McEvoy’s claims included accusing Safer Wales of supporting women who “break court orders” and “denying good fathers contact”.
The Fairwater councillor wrote: “I would argue that Safer Wales helps to abuse children.”
The remarks coincided with White Ribbon Day, which marks the campaign to end all violence against women. Welsh Women’s Aid CEO Paula Hardy said the claims were “outrageous and unsubstantiated”.
Yesterday, during First Minister’s Questions in the National Assembly, Labour AM for Torfaen Lynne Neagle asked Carwyn Jones if he would commend the work of Welsh Women’s Aid following what she said were “insensitive and ill-timed remarks” by Mr McEvoy.
Mr Jones responded: “Yes, I would join you in that. Twitter is a dangerous thing especially when you tweet on multiple occasions.
“You are right – the words you used are a direct quote Coun McEvoy used. Those words are unfortunate to say the least.
“He also goes on to say that Safer Wales is an organisation that helps to abuse children.
“I do hope the party to my right [Plaid Cymru] condemns those remarks. They are wholly inappropriate, especially on the day they were made.”
Responding to the First Minister’s remarks, Plaid AM for South Wales East, Jocelyn Davies, said: “No problem, First Minister, absolutely no problem at all.
“I am the chair of the Cross-Party Group on Domestic Violence and I agree with you 100%.”
The party appeared to further distance itself from Mr McEvoy last night, with chair Helen Mary Jones releasing a statement saying: “Coun McEvoy was commenting in a personal capacity on this issue.
“His comments do not reflect the views of the party.”
Cardiff council Labour group spokeswoman Cerys Furlong said: “Plaid Cymru have done the honourable thing and distanced themselves from Coun McEvoy.
“We believe it is time our council leader Rodney Berman followed their lead, did the honourable thing and dismissed Coun McEvoy.
“His behaviour is not appropriate for someone in his position. For the good of our city he needs to go.”
Earlier this week Safer Wales chief executive officer Barbara Natasegara described the behaviour of the Plaid Cymru councillor for Fairwater as “shameful”.
Coun McEvoy, who claimed to be speaking on behalf of the Cardiff council Plaid Cymru group, said: “The issue is that some third sector groups in Wales support people who are acting unlawfully.
“Many men have already been assessed by social workers, have gone before a court of law and have been awarded court orders because it is in the child’s best interest.
“It is unacceptable for any third sector group to support people acting in contempt of court.
“When a child is denied contact with somebody who has already been assessed as a good parent there is huge emotional damage to that child.
“In 2011 we can’t have the situation where public money is paying to support people breaking court orders. In terms of Plaid Cymru, when Plaid Cymru see the evidence I present to the party they will see I am totally correct at what I am saying.”
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